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Post by Steve Austin on Dec 13, 2004 22:48:58 GMT -8
Ok people, I've added a couple of extra pages of images on the Claysculptors website. These images were supplied by Seb from the official Citroen C2 brochure. There are a selection of road wheels and you may want to include one of the designs to enhance your model. You can access the information via www.claysculptors.com/scale_model_competition.htm and follow the links S.M.C. pt 1 and 2. Hope your having fun and don't forget to post when you can. Have a great holiday season. Steve A
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Post by Steve Austin on Dec 29, 2004 6:52:38 GMT -8
Ok Guys, I hope you all had a great Christmas, we're a couple of weeks into the competition so I hope you've had a chance to get your models started. For anyone who is having trouble on how to approach or start this project I've posted a few images to help you on your way. [/img] www.claysculptors.com/C2H blueprint.jpg[/img][/center] As you can see, the information was enlarged to 1/10th scale and the base templates made from the drawings. [/img] www.claysculptors.com/C2C foam.jpg[/img][/center] [/img][/center] [/img] www.claysculptors.com/C2F foam.jpg[/img][/center] The base board was made together with a pair of small angle brackets to use with the templates. The board is marked with a grid to aid in the modeling process and a base block for the model is screwed to the base board. The foam was pre-shaped before gluing to the base block, as you can see from the photo's the amount of clearance for the clay is approximately 10mm. Well I hope this will encourage you all to press on with your own models and don't be afraid to ask questions. Best of luck, Steve A
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Post by Vizal on Dec 29, 2004 12:20:04 GMT -8
Im a Digital modeler and new to clay modeling. Please keep up with the update for I check this post regularly. Thank you for a wonderful site. Vizal Los Angeles, CA
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Post by Seb on Jan 3, 2005 13:08:19 GMT -8
Hi Steve , great work. So you're in the competition too ? ;D C'mon that's not fair ! More seriously, your photos are really helpful, a sort of wake up call to go to work the clay ... question : do you have an idea concerning the amount of clay necessary for the project ? I've got only 900 gr of Y2 Klay I don't know if it would be enough. Thx Seb
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Post by Steve Austin on Jan 3, 2005 21:54:02 GMT -8
Hi Seb, It's good to hear your back and in such good form!!! I would imagine that you will require approx. 3Kg of clay to give you a 10.0mm to 15.0mm clay coverage over your foam. Like I said in a previous posting I may tend to over estimate but it's better to have too much clay than not enough. I'm looking forward to seeing some images of other peoples work in the near future. Best of luck, Steve A
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Post by prabhat on Jan 20, 2005 7:44:36 GMT -8
Hi Steve....and hello Seb,
Sorry for having dissapeared from the scene for some time. We have a very packed session here at IDC(Industrial Design Centre), IIT Bombay, India and i wasnt getting any time away from the regular assignments and stuff.
But now I am ready to jump back. Will build up the setup this weekend and send u guys some pics soon.
Cya, Prabz
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Post by prabhat on Jan 23, 2005 10:14:36 GMT -8
i have created the core from styrofoam(thermocol) and am moving towards apllication of clay coating.
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Post by prabhat on Jan 23, 2005 10:56:38 GMT -8
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Post by Seb on Jan 23, 2005 14:17:26 GMT -8
Hey you guys ! I can see everything looks good Sorry guys for the long time without contact, I’ve been very busy on other things and work ( yes I need to eat in order to sculpt ! ), so it’s sometimes difficult to find some time for our great project. Prahbat, you seem to be less lazy than me on this one ! great start As they say, a job started is already half done ( or something like that in English ). I don’t now about you in India, but here in France it’s not easy to find clay in small quantity ( I’m talking about 1 to 5 kg ). I have to fix this problem. Not a big deal. Speak to you soon ( with photos hopefully ! ) Love this place ! Seb
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Post by Seb on Jan 23, 2005 14:28:08 GMT -8
BTW Steve ! A question ! : What about making the foam core closer to the final shape of the model, so the coverage of clay would be less important ? Is the 10 mm coverage an absolute minimum for the clay to have enough stability ? With a harder clay I guess it makes it more possible than with a soft one. Thx Seb
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Post by prabhat on Jan 24, 2005 12:30:38 GMT -8
Hey Seb,
Even in India we cant get Styling Clay in small quatities. The one that we are using has been imported from Japan.
Steve, can you guide me on the correct process and direction to start applying the clay.
See u guys soon, cya Prabhat
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Post by Steve Austin on Jan 24, 2005 13:34:20 GMT -8
Hi Prabhat, It looks like you've made a good start. Your armature looks like bead polystyrene, if it is, you may need to coat it with a latex paint to seal it. This will stop the clay from just rolling off the surface as you apply it. You could also spray the armature with a contact glue such as Super 77 from 3M, this will also help to stop the clay from rolling off. I would start by giving the whole model a complete skin of clay to seal off all of the foam. Next make your ground templates and profile templates. Fix your bodyside ground template to your board with double-sided tape and apply your clay in even coats and drag your side profile in. Repeat for the front and rear, this will give a basic blocked in proportion. Have a read of the "New to Clay Modeling Thread", I think there is a more detailed explanation there. I will provide an up-date of photos on my model this week showing the basic clay proportions. That will lead to a host of new questions I'm sure. Seb, you can make the foam closer to the surface if you want but you may find that you will hit foam more often when modeling in the shapes. Normally you would have sufficient clay to allow for changes but for this exercise it doesn't matter as the form is already predetermined. If you can get away with the foam being really close then go for it. OK guys, I hope this gets things moving, if not keep posting your questions. Good luck, Steve A
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Post by claychat on Jan 24, 2005 13:55:19 GMT -8
Hello Prabhat,
Additional to Steve,s reply, if you are using polysytene for the base make sure you seal it first with a water based latex/emulsion before spraying with adhesive, as the solvent in the glue will melt the polystyrene.
Jeff.
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Post by prabhat on Jan 25, 2005 9:33:57 GMT -8
Thank you guys for the advice. i will new pics soon.
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Post by Seb on Jan 27, 2005 9:46:49 GMT -8
Hi guys This contest is so interesting, I couldn’t resist and now I’m into it again ! The modelling board is done, right now I’m working on the drawings for the templates and all the other stuff . Until now, no questions Steve. I guess Prabz will agree, the first thing we realise is that almost all the work is preparation. Photos to follow in the next days. I hope lot of people will join the contest. YES you can learn a bit just looking the posts, NO you can’t understand everything until you actually sculpt your own model. Seb
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